Mosin-Nagant rifle firing the 7.64x54mmR cartridge.

Ivan Chesnokov and his Firearms Philosophy

Who is Ivan Chesnokov?

Ivan Chesnokov appears to be a Russian poster on various firearms forums, most prominently 4chan /k/. Ivan is justifiably quite proud of Russian history and has strong views about firearms, especially about not modifying surplus firearms.

Or possibly Ivan is just a wonderfully amusing troll.

I have tried to assemble an archive of his wisdom.

Here's his response to someone wanting to tacticool their AK:

AK-47 Tri-Rail scope mount system.

Anonymous 06/10/10 (Thu) 22:21 No. 6338808

So, I'm looking for a rail system for my ak. I find side rails fugly, but will settle for one if need be. was looking at something similar to whats in my pic, but idk if they suck or they are for tacticool noobs.

any input?

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A 06/10/10 (Thu) 22:32 No. 6338938

WHY YOU WANT RAIL FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO?

RIFLE IS FINE. YOU FUCK IT, IT ONLY GET HEAVY AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT ON SIDE OF RIFLE.

Strong views, yes. And they're not limited to the Kalashnikov design, he also stands up for the Simonov:

Tacticool SKS for going inna woods.

Outlaw !8ZnsszpFGE 06/10/10 (Thu) 02:17 No. 6330110

So /k/

A couple of years ago I bought a tacticool sks online from a forum i venture to. The SKS was located in Dallas, but I'm in central Texas, and just haven't had a chance to get it (whenever I'm in dallas im usually very busy for work). So the rifle has been playing Safe Queen at my uncles for the time being.....HOWEVER I am headed up there this weekend for a convention and will have time to get it. I can't fucking wait.

TL:DR I'm gunna be ready to go inna woods

Pic semi related, it has some of the same gear.

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A 06/10/10 (Thu) 04:55 No. 6331503

>>6330110

WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR RIFLE? STUPID HICK AMERICAN WITH TEN GALLON HAT AND GIANT PICKUP TRUCK LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE SIMONOV KARBIN AND SAYS "NO, RIFLE NEED MORE DUMB SHIT ON IT"?

WHAT IS REASON FOR PISTOL GRIP? IF YOU NEED TO FIRE FROM HIP IN EMERGENCY, NOW HAND IS TWISTED INTO PAINFUL ANGLE AND YOU MISS EVERY ENEMY! LOOK AT WRONG ANGLE OF BAYONET! LOOK AT CHEAP PLASTIC MAGAZINE THAT FEEDS CARTRIDGE LIKE CONSTANTLY JAMMING PEZ CANDY BOX! WHERE DID CLEANING STICK GO?

I HEAR OF 922 LAW IN AMERICA. ADDING PISTOL GRIP TO WEAPON MEANS YOU CHANGE OTHER PARTS. WHAT ELSE YOU FUCK? YOU PUT NEW BOLT EDIFICE? HOW ABOUT BAD FIT RECEIVER COVER FOR CHEAP SCOPE TO SHOW OFF AT HICK PARTY AND NEVER HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN?

SURE, IS ONLY YUGOSLAV COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF SERGEI SIMONOV. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY SERGEI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!" LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER SIMONOV'S GRAVE BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF HIS ANGRY CORPSE. IS FAULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

RIFLE WAS FINE BEFORE YOU FUCK IT. NOW IS TRASH. MAYBE YOU CHECK IN GARAGE AND ORIGINAL BOLT EDIFICE AND WOOD ARE STILL THERE. MAYBE IS NOT TOO LATE TO KEEP RIFLE SOMETHING NOT SHAMEFUL TO TAKE TO FIRING RANGE. TAKE SHIT OF GOAT AWAY AND COULD STILL BE GOOD WEAPON.

Ivan's firearms philosophy also addresses handguns, including those not of Soviet or Russian design or manufacture. For example, in response to some thread about Belgian 5.7mm pistols he once wrote:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A 07/15/10 (Thu) 16:05 No. 6734268

>>6733861

MAIN POINT OF SELLING BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS EXTREME PRICE OF WEAPON AND CARTRIDGE.

BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON OF MAN WHO WEARS EXPENSIVE ITALIAN FASCIST SUIT OF HAND SEWING, DRIVE HUGE EXPENSIVE NAZI MERCEDES OF A.M.G. SHOP, SAIL ON MASSIVE YACHT TO GREEK ISLANDS. I THINK YOU GET PICTURE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON THAT SAYS IS NO SUCH THING AS CONCERN OF MONEY.

FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE.

FOR REST OF WORLD THERE IS 9 MILLIMETERS OF LUGER WHICH IS SAME WOUND FOR COST LESS.

And speaking of handgun ammunition wound characteristics and their application in defensive uses, Ivan also has some thoughts on that topic:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A

MAN WHO ARGUES ONE SHOT DEATH BY PROUD MILITARY CALIBERS IS FUCKING FOOL. I EXPLAIN WHY.

THIS MAN LOOKS FOR PISTOL TO HIDE ON PERSON TO SHOOT MAN FROM STREET WHO WOULD DO CRIME TO HIM. MAN WHO WOULD DO CRIME IS NOT LIKE BANZAI CHARGE OF JAPANESE INFANTRY. HE IS NOT IN "GROUND OF DEATH" FROM EPISTLE OF WISE SUN TZU. MAN WHO WOULD DO CRIME IS NOT FIGHTING FOR LIFE OR FREEDOM OF PEOPLE. HE FIGHT ONLY FOR THINGS, HE CAN GET SOMEWHERE ELSE FROM SOMEONE ELSE. THIS MAN DOES NOT FIGHT TO DEATH. THIS MAN FIGHT ONLY UNTIL IS CLEAR MAN WITH PISTOL RESISTS AND SO HE RUN AWAY.

PISTOL OF 9 MILLIMETERS OR CALIBER OF .45 IS GREAT SHOCKING HOLE IN BODY. IS GIANT SPOUT OF BLOOD AND PAIN OF MORTAL WOUND. MORE MEN DIE FROM BULLET OF THESE TWO CALIBERS THAN ALL OTHERS IN HISTORY OF WORLD.

I ADVISE AND YOU LISTEN. LAST TIME ARMY CARRY BAD PISTOL INTO COMBAT WAS NAMBU OF JAPANESE EMPIRE. SINCE THAT TIME MILLIONS OF MEN CARRY PISTOL OF 9 MILLIMETERS. IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM WITH STUPID GENEVA TREATY BALL BULLET. IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU WITH TEN ROUBLES PER CARTRIDGE HOLLOW NOSE BULLET AND FANCY BRASS OF NICKEL PLATING. YOU PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE, YOU CARRY MANY CARTRIDGE. WHEN MAN WAVES GUN AT YOU, FILL HIM WITH BULLETS FAST AND STRAIGHT. MORE HOLES IS BETTER THAN BIG HOLES. CARRY PISTOL WITH LARGE MAGAZINE AND MANY CARTRIDGE.

IN THIS WAY YOU DEFEAT CRIMINAL.

And speaking of the Tokarev versus the Belgian Five Seven:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!zkyAeytsDSJ 04/30/11 (Sat) 14:32 No. 8776321

PISTOL OF TOKAREV IS ORIGINAL HAND WEAPON OF PIERCING ARMOR VEST. SURE, IS CHEAP TO MAKE AND CHEAP TO BUY BUT IS REVERENT CONTENDER TO SUPER EXPENSE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL.

ALSO HAS COOL SOVIET STAR ON GRIPPING PANEL. WITH THIS DESIGN YOU ARE LOOK LIKE STAR OF COLD WAR, NO?

If all this has inspired you to purchase your own Simonov Karbin, Ivan has some advice for you:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A

BEST PLACE TO LOOK FOR SIMONOV KARBIN IN AMERICA IS GUN SHOW. MANY TABLES OF DEALER, MANY RIFLES. UNLESS YOU SLEEP LATE AND COME AFTER BIG CROWD, YOU HAVE GOOD CHOICE OF RIFLES FOR BUYING.

MOST IMPORTANT IS DECIDE WHICH COUNTRY OF RIFLE YOU WISH TO BUY. IS OBVIOUS THAT RUSSIAN SKS IS BEST BUT YUGOSLAV COPY TYPE AND CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY TYPE CAN BE GOOD TOO. OTHER COUNTRIES MAKE SKS RIFLE, BUT THESE THREE MAKE MOST. OTHERS ARE MOSTLY FOR MAN WHO GATHERS MANY DIFFERENT SKS BECAUSE OF INTEREST IN MILITARY HISTORY. IF IS FOR SHOOT, STICK TO MAIN THREE.

MY AMERICAN BUDDY SAYS TO ME THAT CHEAPEST VERSION RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA IS YUGOSLAV TYPE. THIS IS ONLY MAIN KIND OF SKS THAT LACKS CHROME PLATING INSIDE BARREL. IS NOT TOTALLY NEEDED TO HAVE CHROME PLATING IN BARREL, BUT IS NICE BECAUSE HELPS TO GUARD AGAINST DAMAGE. RUSSIAN AND CHINESE VERSION ALL HAVE CHROME PLATING IN BARREL. YUGOSLAV TYPE HAS SPECIAL GAS TUBE LEVER AND GRENADE SPIGOT ON END OF BARREL. I THINK LIVE GRENADE FOR CIVILIAN IN AMERICA IS PROBABLY ENOUGH REASON FOR GULAG, SO IS PROBABLY NO REAL USE FOR GRENADE SPIGOT TO YOU.

I SAY MORE IN JUST A MOMENT.

NO MATTER WHICH COUNTRY OF SKS YOU PICK, YOU MUST INSPECT BARREL BEFORE BUY. BRING FLASHLIGHT TO GUN SHOW. AFTER ASKING DEALER WITH DEFERENCE TO HANDLE RIFLE, PULL BACK BOLT. INSPECT CAREFULLY THE RIFLE AND BE SURE THERE IS NO CARTRIDGE PRESENT BECAUSE BARREL POINTS AT FACE SOON. LOOK FROM MUZZLE END OF BARREL AND MOVE LIGHT AROUND BEHIND FACE OF CHAMBER. YOU SEE CONDITION OF INSIDE OF BARREL. YOU LOOK FOR NICE SHINE AND GOOD SMOOTH SURFACE. YOU LOOK FOR SHARP EDGE ON RIFLING OF BARREL. YOU NOTICE AND AVOID BARREL IF HAS POCKMARKS LIKE ASS OF FAT GIRL.

CHECK ALSO TO SEE WHETHER MAIN PARTS OF ACTION HAVE SAME NUMBER. BOLT, BOLT CARRYING DEVICE, AND RECEIVER WITH BARREL ARE MOST IMPORTANT. UNLESS YOU GATHER MANY SKS FOR INTEREST IN HISTORY, IS NOT SO IMPORTANT WHETHER NUMBERS ON MAGAZINE AND STOCK ARE SAME. CHECK ALSO TO SEE WHETHER BAYONET AND CLEANING STICK ARE PRESENT. IF NOT THERE, NOT BIG DEAL. THESE PARTS CAN BE EASY TO FIND, BUT IF BAYONET ATTACHING POST IS REMOVED IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FIX BAYONET LATER. AT LEAST BE SURE BAYONET ATTACHING POST IS PRESENT.

ALWAYS AVOID SKS IF IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAS FUCK IT WITH ROTARY GRINDING TOOL OR SAW, MAYBE TO PUT MAGAZINE FROM KALASHNIKOV OR OTHER STUPID SHIT. IF ONLY IS WOOD MISSING, IS NOT SUCH BIG PROBLEM. GOOD SEARCH CAN FIND WOOD ALREADY SHAPED, OR REAL MAN CAN MAKE NEW WOOD WITH HANDS AND TOOLS OF WOOD.

HOPE THIS IS SOME HELP. I WISH YOU LUCK IN SEARCH FOR FIRST SKS RIFLE.

And speaking of "POCKMARKS LIKE ASS OF FAT GIRL", Ivan has some relevant suggestions for us conscripts:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A

GIRL WHO HAS FEAR OF GUN IS NO GIRL FOR GOOD CONSCRIPT. IN RED ARMY WE HAVE MANY WOMEN SNIPER, THEY SHOOT STRAIGHT AND KILL MANY ENEMIES OF PARTY. IS BETTER FOR YOU SHE WAS BAD GIRL WITH NO TASTE FOR WEAPON; NAZI HECKLER AND KOCH ONLY SENDS MESSAGE THAT YOU WILL SHOOT JEW. IF SHE WERE LIKE GREAT LYUDMILA PAVLICHENKO SHE JUST LAUGH AND BAIL ON YOUR ASS FOR CARRYING DUMB NAZI BRICK OF HIGH PRICE.

IN RUSSIA WE ALSO HAVE RULES OF COURTING. DO NOT BRING SIDEARM TO FIRST TIME WITH GIRL. SENDS WRONG MESSAGE, THAT YOU ARE BAD CONSCRIPT WHO WILL RAPE GIRL. ON FIRST TIME HAVE DISCUSSION OF GLORY OF PARTY AND DEFENSE OF MOTHERLAND. ON SECOND TIME MANY DRINKS OF VODKA TO MAKE GIRL WANT FUCK; MATCHING ENOUGH DRINKS MAKES DANGEROUS TO CARRY SIDEARM. ON THIRD TIME IS DEFINITE FUCK. AFTER THIS YOU MAY BRING SIDEARM ALL AS LIKED.

Back to comparing surplus rifles from different countries, especially the Kalashnikov, he wrote this in response to someone who had purchased a rifle of unknown origin:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A

KALASHNIKOV IS WEAPON OF RUSSIA. TODAY IS WEAPON OF WHOLE WORLD, BUT IS GIFT OF MOTHERLAND TO PLANET.

I THINK YOU GET RIFLE OF SAIGA. IS OF IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS. PRICE IS GOOD AND FACTORY IS WHERE WHOLE WORLD FACES TO SEE HOW KALASHNIKOV RIFLE IS MADE. WHEN MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV INSPECT ARMS FACTORY, THIS IS FACTORY HE INSPECT.

WASR OF ROMANIA CAN BE GOOD RIFLE TOO. IF YOU ARE WISE WITH KALASHNIKOV SISTEMA AND INSPECT WELL THE RIFLE, YOU CAN KNOW.

IN AMERICA IS TYPE FROM ARSENAL OF NAME ARSENAL. IS FUNNY NAME TO ME. IS LIKE AMERICAN CHEESE OF NAME AMERICAN CHEESE. PRICE IS HIGH BUT QUALITY IS LIKE BEST RUSSIAN KALASHNIKOV. MAYBE YOU BRIBE PARTY AND GET JOB WITH GREAT SALARY AND PRICE IS NO PROBLEM. MAYBE NOT. IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE RIFLE THAT WORKS AND MANY CARTRIDGE THAN SINGLE FINEST RIFLE AND FEW CARTRIDGE.

Is Ivan Chesnokov really Russian?

I don't know. He certainly seems pretty convincing. At the least, he seems to know something about Russian grammar in addition to Russian/Soviet history.

The Russian language doesn't use definite or indefinite articles. That is, no words "a", "an", or "the". If you really mean one of a thing, or that or this specific thing, you say that. Also, Russian does not have a present tense of the verb "to be", you use the copula formation of naming a thing and then saying what it is:
Михайл Тимофеевич Калашников — очень хороший инженер!
Mikhail Timofeyevich Kalashnikov — very good engineer!
Ivan's writing is short on articles and the verb "to be", and he also uses the genitive case (as in "... of something") instead of a special possessive form, as in Russian.

And at least back in the day, the sights on rifles like the Mosin Nagant were calibrated in the аршин or arshin, the "Russian cubit" standardized in the 18th century by Peter the Great at exactly 28 English inches or 71.1 cm. Ivan references dimensions in arshins at times, as in his answer to someone considering a rubber "ass pad" for his Mosin-Nagant:

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A

RUBBER ASS PAD FOR MOSIN NAGANT THREE LINE RIFLE IS NOT SO BAD. STRONG STEEL ASS PLATE IS PERFECT AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK ARMS FACTORY ALREADY BUT IF LONG RIFLE IS GOOD, THEN EVEN MUCH LONGER RIFLE MUST BE BETTER, NO? WITH RUBBER ASS PAD AND BAYONET PROPERLY FIXED FOR BATTLE, WHOLE WEAPON IS MORE THAN TWO ARSHIN OF LENGTH. IS MUCH TALLER THAN JAPANESE INFANTRY SOLDIER, IN EXAMPLE.

Germans are referred to as Nazis when not lumped in with the Italians under the general category of Fascists, and references to Chinese products usually include their origin in slave labor factories. And if you doubt his appreciation for Russian and Soviet heroism, read this rebuttal to someone wanting an extra expensive American rifle and dismissing the Mosin-Nagant as "cheap":

IVAN CHESNOKOV !!zkyAeytsDSJ 08/10/10 (Tue) 15:43 No.6990255

EVERY SURPLUS RIFLE WITH BOLT ACTION IS CHEAP SOME TIME IN HISTORY. MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE IS MOST NUMEROUS OF ALL INFANTRY RIFLE. IT IS RIFLE THAT WINS OCTOBER REVOLUTION. IT IS RIFLE THAT CARRIES INFANTRY OF ALLIED FORCES IN EUROPE THROUGH GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR. MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE SERVES FOR MORE THAN CENTURY, OLD STOLEN RUSSIAN RECEIVER IS STILL USE BY SNIPER OF FINNISH ARMY.

YOU CAN BE HAPPY WITH 40,000 ROUBLE RIFLE WITH NO HISTORY AND PLASTIC STOCK WHO KILLS PAPER TARGET AND DEER WITH NO WEAPON OR FIGHTING HEART.

I CAN BE HAPPY WITH 2,000 ROUBLE RIFLE THAT IS ARTIFACT OF MILITARY HISTORY AND KILLS TSARIST AND NAZI ALIKE.

JOY OF HAVING MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE IS JOY THAT MONEY CANNOT AFFORD.

Has Ivan Chesnokov ever attempted to explain everything worth knowing about firearms?

Yes! Read and learn:

M16, AR15, M4.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:21 No. 6985074
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I GO TO EXPLAIN VARIOUS ACTION OF FIREARM. WE START WITH DIRECT IMPUNCHMENT.

DIRECT IMPUNCHMENT IS SAME AS RIFLE SHITS WHERE HE EATS. YOU SEE IT? BOLT FLY FORWARD, CHOPPING CARTRIDGE FROM TOP OF MAGAZINE AND OVER FEED MOUTH. BOLT SQUEEZES CARTRIDGE INTO FIRE CHAMBER. WHEN OPERATOR FALLS THE TRIGGER, THE HAMMER SHOVELS THE FIRING PIN INTO PRIMER HEAD. PRIMER HEAD BURST, DISCHARGING MAIN PROPELLOR CHARGE AND BULLET IS FARTED FROM CHAMBER DOWN BARREL. GAS PRESSURES INSIDE BARREL PUSH ON BULLET AND ON WALLS OF BARREL BUT ALSO INTO HOLE FACING BOLT EDIFICE. GASES FULL OF COPPER, LEAD, AND CARBON FOULING SEWAGE PUSH BACKWARD THROUGH HOLE BECAUSE GASEOUS PRESSURE, BOLT EDIFICE FLIES TO REAR, EXPUNGER GRASPS AND EXPUNGES THE EMPTY SHELL. THEN ALL WHOLE BEGIN AGAIN. IS BASICALLY SAME AS SHITS WHERE HE EATS.

SKS, Kalashnikov AK-47, Dragunov.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:22 No. 6985082
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IN PISTON STYLE RIFLE IS ALSO GAS TUBE. GASEOUS PRESSURE FLOWS THROUGH GAS BLOCK HOLE TO PISTON FACE. GASEOUS WITH CARBON, LEAD, AND CARBON FOULING FLOWS AGAINST PISTON INSIDE GAS TUBE. RIFLE IN THIS WAY SHITS IN TOILET BUT CARTRIDGES FEED IN CLEAN AREA. PISTON CAN BE AFFIXED TO BOLT EDIFICE LIKE EXAMPLE IN KALASHNIKOV SISTEMA OR SEPARATELY ONLY GIVING SHOVE TO BOLT EDIFICE LIKE IN SIMONOV SISTEMA. IS MORE SHAKY PARTS SO SLIGHT LESS ACCURACY, BUT THE OPERATOR HE IS CONSCRIPT, RIGHT? SO IS NO HARM IN COUPLE OF MORE MINUTE OF ARSHIN LOSS AT LONG RANGE.

Shpagin submachine gun.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:22 No. 6985087
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IN SISTEMA OF BLOWBACK, LIKE SHPAGIN SUBMACHINE GUN, IS NO VENTILATION OF GASEOUS PRESSURE AT ALL. GASEOUS PRESSURE FLOW IN TWO DIRECTIONS, MAINLY: TO PUSH FORWARD AGAINST BULLET AS IT FART FORWARD TOWARD MUZZLE, AND TO PUSH BACKWARD AGAINST EMPTY CARTRIDGE SHELL. IN THIS WAY EMPTY CARTRIDGE SHELL PUSH ITSELF AGAINST BOLT EDIFICE AND BOLT EDIFICE MOVE TOWARD REAR. IS SIMPLE AND RELIABLE UPON SISTEMA FOR SMALL AUTOMATIC RIFLE.

Makarov pistol, Tokarev pistol.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:23 No. 6985092
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FOR SMALL PISTOL ARM CAN BE EITHER SISTEMA OF BLOWBACK OR SISTEMA OF SHORTENED RECOIL. SISTEMA OF BLOWBACK LIKE SHPAGIN SUBMACHINE GUN IS SEEN IN DESIGN OF MAKAROV PISTOL. DESIGN OF SHORTENED RECOIL IS SEEN IN DESIGN OF TOKAREV PISTOL. IS LIKE MACHINE OF AMERICAN JOHN BROWNING. PRESSURES AGAINST EMPTY CARTRIDGE SHELL PUSH AGAINST EDIFICE OF BARREL AND SLIDE MASS, BUT IN SHORT TIME BARREL IS DROPPED AND CEASES MOTION. SLIDE MASS CONTINUES REARWARD TO FINISH OPERATIONS OF WEAPON CYCLE.

Italian Baretta pistol.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:25 No. 6985102
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OTHER DESIGN LIKE ITALIAN BARETTA USE VARIOUS WAY OF ABSORBING DIFFERENCE OF MOMENTOUS FROM MOVING SLIDE MASS PLUS BARREL EDIFICE VERSUS SLIDE MASS ALONG. ALL IS SHORTENED RECOIL DESIGN AND IS BASIS OF MOST SELF LOADING PISTOL SISTEMA IN MODERN COMBAT.

Italian Baretta shotgun.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:26 No. 6985110
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ONLY ADDITIONAL SISTEMA OF SELFLOADING ARM WORTH OF NOTE IS ITALIAN FANCY INERTIA OPERATION WHICH IS BASICALLY SAME AS OTHER RECOIL OPERATION WEAPON BUT WITH FANCY PATENT AND HIGH PRICE. IN CASE OF INERTIA OPERATION SISTEMA, MASS OF FULL WEAPON AND OPERATOR FORM EDIFICE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CYCLE OF WEAPON. SISTEMA OF INERTIA OPERATION IS MAINLY FOR LARGE FARTING WEAPON WITH MUCH FOULING SEWAGE LIKE SHOTGUN.

Russian Nagant revolver.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:26 No. 6985114
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NAGANT REVOLVER IS FROM TIME OF BEFORE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR BUT STILL CONTAINS STRONG RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGICAL SISTEMA. WESTERN REVOLVER IS LOOSE LIKE BAD WHORE BUT NAGANT REVOLVER IS TIGHT BECAUSE TWO CHARACTERS OF OPERATION. AS CONSCRIPT HE FALLS TRIGGER, WHEEL OF NAGANT SISTEMA ROLLS NEXT CHAMBER INTO PLACE FOR SHOOT. WHEEL LOCKS FORWARD TO MAKE GOOD TIGHT SEAL OF CHAMBER TO BARREL. REAR OF BARREL ALSO SQUEEZE HARD THE BALLOONING CASE. EXTRA POWER IS HELD TO FART BULLET TOWARD MUZZLE.

Russian Mosin-Nagant rifle.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:27 No. 6985117
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FROM SAME TIME OF NAGANT REVOLVER IS STRONG SOVIET GUN MOSIN NAGANT THREE LINE RIFLE. IS NOT SELFLOADING ARM SISTEMA SO NO CARE GIVEN TO VENTILATION OF GAS OR SELF PROPELLED MOVEMENT OF BOLT EDIFICE. THE OPERATOR HE FALLS TRIGGER; THE HAMMER HE SHOVELS PRIMER HEAD. LARGE BATTLE CARTRIDGE EXPLODES AND FARTS BULLET TOWARD TARGET. IS EFFECTIVE DISTANCE OF UP TO ONE HUNDRED SCORES OF ARSHIN. THE CONSCRIPT HE TILTS BOLT HANDLE UPWARD, COCKING SISTEMA FOR NEXT SHOT. HE MANUALLY MOVES BY OPERATOR TO THE REAR, EXPUNGING LAST EMPTY CARTRIDGE. THEN HE MANUALLY MOVES BY OPERATOR FORWARD, CHOPPING NEXT CARTRIDGE FROM BELGIAN MAGAZINE SISTEMA INTO MOUTH OF CHAMBER. THE OPERATOR HE LOCKS ACTION CLOSED AND STRONG AND WHOLE CYCLE IS READY TO BEGIN NEXT.

American Gatling gun.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:28 No. 6985121
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GATLING GUN OF AMERICAN CIVIL WAR IS NOT OF SELFLOADING SISTEMA. IS TYPICAL CAPITALIST APPROACH OF MORE IS BETTER. INSTEAD OF A SINGLE STRONG BARREL OF PROUD WORKMANSHIP, IS MANY EXPENSIVE BARREL ON WHEEL LIKE REVOLVER. ONE CONSCRIPT HE SPIN CRANK; OTHER CONSCRIPT HE SWEEP ENEMIES DOWN LIKE FIST OF DRUNKEN GOD.

Australian Metal Storm gun.

IVAN CHESNOKOV 08/09/10 (Mon) 22:28 No. 6985122
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GUN OF METAL STORM IS AUSTRALIAN CONVICT SCHEME FOR FRAUD OF ARMY PROCUREMENT DEPOT. HE STUFFED WITH MANY PROJECTILES PACKED LIKE CONSCRIPTS IN LANDING BOAT. IS BASICALLY SAME AS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL SLAMFIRE, BUT OF MANY BARRELS LIKE AMERICAN GATLING GUN.

Also see Marko Kloos' wonderful essay "Butchering a Whole Herd of Holy Cows" about the horrible problems with every gun design, ever, and his "Sacred Cows, the Second Serving", about their equally flawed ammunition.

Conscripts! Wrap Your Portyanki!

If you are even thinking a little about coming over to Ivan Chesnokov's point of view, you really should be wearing traditional Russian portyanki.

Click here to learn more!